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Name: greyannon New Member   Title: Masons and Divorce

I would like to ask anyone out there that has been a wife of a Mason, what were your experiences? Did your husband being involved in the Masons cause serious problems in your marriage that was otherwise happy? Did his involvement end in your divorce? How did he change for the worst? Tell me your story, or some elses story you know of.

Name: Matthew New Member

My husband is not involved in mason and therefore, i have no idea of it. However, i got enough information about it through this thread.
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Name: Matthew New Member

My husband is not involved in mason and therefore, i have no idea of it. However, i got enough information about it through this thread.
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Name: Maggieslake New Member

My boyfriend met this lady at a night club. She has a mental illness. He told me that he loves me, he does not know what happened to him, and he felt lost without me. He does not love or want to be with this woman but for some reason he said to me he Could not leave her house. Someone told me that she had put something on him to keep him away from me. That was how i search and found Priestessifaa@yahoo.com, she did a spell that reverse the whole thing back, and my boyfriend Showed the door to escape out of her house. Our relationship is stronger than ever. He is here with me, and she moved to Palemo, Sicily. Thanks priestess.

Name: Misty New Member

I was the daughter-in-law of a Mason/Shriner for 15 years. Of course, I realize not every single man in the organization is like him, however as some others have mentioned, I do believe there is a patten of behavior that needs to be considered. Was he a good husband and father? No, he was not. He was abusive to both his wife and children physically, financially and verbally. While his wife was out of town helping one of their sons' wives with a new baby for a week he brought home some creature that he picked up at a bar and had an affair with her..right there in their home. He ditched her as soon as he heard the Mrs. was coming home. Of course, she found out from neighbors and she eventually divorced him over it. Who can blame her? Sadly, my former father-in-law was also a drunk which didn't help matters much. In any event, there seems to be quite a bit of tomfoolery involved with this organization. In fact, I've been asked to join the womens counterpart and have politely declined.

Name: The widows other son New Member

My Grandfather was a Mason, Father was a Mason and brother is a Mason. Never knew Grandfather, Father was a good husband and father.
Brother however, is a different story. His first wife divorced him, second wife 'committed suicide' hmmm... As a brother he is as sorry as they come. Father died 12 yr ago, Mother is Eastern Star. Mother has had Alzheimer's for years now, Sister & I called on Brother to help with her. Brother came to Mother's house and 'helped himself'. Mother was left with 240 acre family farm. Brother convinced her to deed the children their shares of the farm, which she did and Brother recorded at the courthouse before informing the rest of us and handing out the deeds. Brother tricked her into deeding property to his two children as though they were 'brother and sister' to the rest of us (2 Daughters and 1 Brother (me). Our children received nothing. Outcome was (Mason) Brother (and his children) received 142 acres, 1 Sister rec'd 57 acres (almost fair share), another of my Sisters rec'd 10 acres (lives 3000 mi. away, good person with PHD, unable to defend herself here) and I (the widow's other son) rec'd 37 acres of the worst part of the property. Brother's son rec'd the part of the farm with the foundation of my house already started there.
I thought alot of Father, always respected him. My brother however is a Mason, liar and thief. Not being a Mason myself, I have no hope that anyone will ever 'come to the aid of the widow's other son'. In fact I expect the Masons will only respect my brother more as he is now wealthy with (stolen) property ($12k acre x 142 acres) and will be an asset to them. Father would spin in his grave if he knew what brother has done. Always respected Masons, now I have no respect for them at all. They talk a good line but do nothing principled outside their closed ranks. Talk the talk but do not walk the walk. Now I have serious doubts about my brother's wife's 'suicide'. He has lots of guns and has proven he would lie, cheat and steal from his own family. Masons, I direct this to YOU. How can you support those who would do great harm to the widow's son? Guess your words mean little other than for entertainment value. Father was a land surveyor, we have seen similar situations in other families over the years. Father assured me that brother would never do something like this to me and my sisters. Father said "you too, will be the widow's son" and assured me my brother would not violate Masonic principles. So much for Masonic principles when there is money involved. Beware of dealings with Masons, my brother is one and has stolen from all of his brothers and sisters. He has stolen $984,000.00 in land and Father's house. Mother insists she never signed any such deeds but anyone out there whose parent has Alzheimer's knows how much that means. When she signed she had not yet been diagnosed but was diagnosed within the year after signing. Her condition was the cause of our asking Brother to meet with us and help decide what to do about Mother. Maybe this is an example of 'Masonic intelligence'. Maybe brother was hit with a sudden 'illumination', got the bright idea he could steal a million dollars. The $720,000.00 he was entitled to (and received in addition to the $984k he stole) was not enough for him. This is what having a Mason as a trusted family member has meant to me and my sister. If you want to be treated this way, marry a Mason. Apparently they approve of their members acting in this manner.

Name: Potential Wife New Member

I am not yet a wife of a Freemason, but had started to do research about it to educate myself. I then found myself here. My fiancé has never outwardly come out and told me that he is one, however I have stumbled across some evidence. I got so curious that I decided to Google him and there his name was as having paid contribution for the year. Upon further research, I found that his father is in an Office position at the local Lodge and my fiance himself was in DeMolay from the age of 12-21 for the entire duration. He even ended up President of DeMolay at one point. I have been dating him for two years and he has never once mentioned his participation in this "Secret Society". I wanted to give it the benefit of the doubt but the things I am finding are making me question if this marriage should happen at all. Thank you all for sharing your stories.

Name: fawnie New Member

I found this page while doing a search on another topic. I had to stop what I was doing and register because I couldn't believe all the crap I was reading, here, about the Masons. I grew up the daughter, and great grand daughter, of a Free Mason. My father wasn't any thing like the garbage I see written here about them. He was a good man, highly intelligent, and he took care of his wife (my mom), and seven of us children. My parents were married for 60 years when my mother died. My father never remarried, and he finally died at the age of 91. He was a 32nd degree Scottish Rites Mason, and a Shriner. As a child, I had fun going to the family events the Shriner's occasionally held such as dinners, fairs and parades. My dad wasn't absent all the time from our home. In fact, he was a real homebody! The Masons didn't take up all his time. He was an avid organic gardener. He loved nature and always had plants growing around the yard, and house. He was an avid reader, and spent much time at home reading, and studying from books. My dad worked as a research chemist. He had a sharp mind, and could always be gone to for advice, and words of wisdom. Those of you who claim Mason's are devil worshippers need to study their symbolism. Its not what your tight, tiny little brains think it is. Its much different, and it has a purpose that it serves. I'm really offended by what I've read on here. If you've had a problem with a Mason in your life, it must be the person, not the Masons, that is the problem. Don't go and wipe all the poop off your shoe onto the whole lot of them just because one person did you wrong. How childish can one get in their thinking?

Name: fleur_dliz New Member

i am a wife of mason.just wanna share my thoughts.My husband is a past master been a mason for almost 11 years.SInce he joined freemasonry our married life was affected due to the conflicts of time that he had to devote for the meetings,conferences,conventions etc...Not that after years of joining found out that he is having an affair with women,mostly separated from their husbands,i am wondering...there is a certain pattern maybe masons are following ...I discovered everything the day he died.Brothers will cover up what happened but the truth will come out when someone speak.True ladies until the end of their life they will deny evrything from you.

Name: BellaAurora New Member

Hello,

I dated my boyfriend whom I loved deeply, and thought he loved me too. I should have been careful since his father is a high ranking Mason, but I was 22 and was naive about Freemasons especially since my family is Christian, believing in Jehovah and Jesus Christ. Currently, he is moving out of my home and the reason we never married is because of Freemasonry.

I have truthfully learnt that unmarried Freemasons cannot get married, unless there future wife is offered up to the Devil and other demonic forces. Some women have "successful" marriages to Masons because they too are also with Satan, whether or not they realize it, but often times they know.

If you were married and then he joined after, if he cannot sell your soul to the Devil, then separation and divorce is on the way. You should be thankful you are out from under his spell and me too!!

Masonry, shriners, templars are demonic organizations, pretending they are not, so if it did not work out just remember that the Lord always knows best. No one can ever experience happiness with demonic forces around.

Name: sad wife New Member

So happy, I just read to my husband the two first blogs (lol he was not to happy). Thanks because I being telling him for sooooooo long and I'm the crazy Bitch. OMG about the old friends, about put lodge first than family about covering for each other. (ex mason and too19) you guys are my heroes I'm not CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYY. I can call him anything and he just keep quiet did they have trainning for that too? I try to talk to one of the brethren about the situation and he keep quiet too, Yes, they are backstabbing I over heard conversations, yes they have cliques, I'm start getting tired, were 30 years together. :-(

Name: tool9 New Member

Hi All,

I am a Mason. In reading the responses here from many women opposed to Freemasonry, I would like to say to the utmost that you are 100% right. I am a Past Master of a lodge and no longer attend because of the commitment and also because of what the "Craft" stands for. First, the Craft uses the premise that they are making "good men better", by becoming one. Yes, there is a death oath associated with each of the 3 degrees to become a Master Mason. The first is to have your throat cut across, the second is to have your heart taken therefrom, and the third is to be severed in twain and buried in the sands of the sea at low water mark. These death oaths are disgusting. Most of the brethren I have associated with are drunken pigs with nothing but deceit and lies on their lips. They hide behind the benevolence of good works and claim that the Brotherhood of Masonry pleases the Great Architect of the Universe being God.

I never once felt that I grew through the craft as a man and become "better". . I aspired to become the Master of the Lodge and yet there was no mentorship but backstabbing from every time you effed up a line or two. Joining the lodge at first I felt ostracized and isolated as most of the Masons already had their cliques and new guys had a hard time fitting in.

I have lots to say about the craft to dispel all the BS and lies, and I am happy to share with you. They can come at me with the death oaths and I would be happy to shoot them in the heads if they try. My dad dedicated his life to this organization and yet no one would come to see him as he was held up in his care home for 3 years after having a stroke.

Have you kicked a Mason today?

Name: ex mason New Member

hold onto your hats ladies ..im not sure how to begin but when i joined the masons i was encouraged to distance myself from non masonic friends and only to trust other masons and no one else .,my minimal yearly involvement almost trebled due to being invited to various functions,installations ,ladies nights ,charity dinners etc..refusing these functions are seen as un-masonic and attendance is encouraged .invitation to other masonic bodies such as royal arch,templars, shriners is seen as an honour again refusal offends so naturally your obliged to join,whilst this is going on my non masonic friends are almost non existent due to only conversing with other masons..the financial implications meant i was constantly donating to masonic charities,money to pay for jewels,regalia etc,very little if nothing went into the local community..masons are taught to act superior ,can communicate with other masons using language that non masonic people realise(using phrases,words that are deemed innocent to non masons)family members who are non masons are either recruited or looked down on if they aren't interested in joining ..the oaths and obligations taken during the various degrees are basically psychological programming ..if you are speaking to a mason you are speaking to two people or two alter egos ..the masonic mind set and analysis of any communications will be dominated by the masonic philosophy and teachings of that person....(hope that makes sense!)everything has a masonic slant to it..family events such as vacations ,family dinners etc are arranged to fit around masonic meetings ,the lodge becomes a priority,fellow brethren become a priority over non masonic male family members ...freemasonry however seems ok for elderly widowed men who have no family for a social outlet but for the obsessed who want rank and recognition it is a death knell for relationships and family ..even those who never thought about masonic structure/commitment can get easily caught up in it all as recognition in the fraternity for participation is rewarded ..i could go on about the pitfalls of freemasonry for a long time,if anyone wants to discuss or ask me anything feel free to do so at cloverhill@talktalk.net

Name: loveandshine New Member

I am married to a high ranking mason... We have the most beautiful connection and love kindled between us. Our marriage is beautiful and masonry has never been anything that has shed danger to our relationship or friendship. My advise to all of you here is just as rumors go around about prechers cheating on their wives so do rumors go around about others... If your marriage has fallen apart it is not caused by masonry whatsoever. There must be other issues. Do not keep your judgements against masonry because the same could be accused of the churches that have broken up over affairs. Masonry is beautiful and is ageold.

Name: Mislead New Member

My husband has been a Mason for over 30 years we have been together for 20 years. For the first 10 years there was no problem as I have my hobbies and work full time I didn;t mind him going out 2/3 times a week.
7 years ago I notices a great change in him, he was rude, nasty totally thoughtless towards me. I knew he would just ball me out if I was to say anything so I just carried on doing what I do. We were so in love until this time I was confused. Without going into great detail of how and when, the past 7 years has revealed he was having an affair with one of the waitresses who worked at the masonic hall...........My heart was/is broken.
I was told about his affair at a Ladies night, but I had suspected it long before I was told by the way he treated me.
His lies are beyond belief,. but after reading some articles about masonry
it would seem this is what masons learn to do, and my god is he good at it. We are still together, but I have no choice. I don't work any more due to having a breakdown earlier this year, so I have no means to support myself.
What I would like to know is:- How is this behaviour regarded in the Lodge?
I do know the waitress in question has now left the masonic hall, and my husband has resigned from that particular lodge.

Name: Char New Member

I too was married to a mason, the group of lies and deception. Recently I started to
write a book so I am doing major research in to their philosophy and warfare games.
Sadly it's against their own wife, children and other family members. Anyone have any information to share please email me warriorangel726@yahoo.com. This will be strictly confidential
and nothing you could tell me would surprise me. Mind and body health in the family
Is a big interest.
Thanks
Char

Name: EXSHOW New Member

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Name: Nosam New Member

I thought I was the only one going through this. I have known my husband for 10 years and we have been married for 5. Our relationship was rocky at times but we were always committed to one another...or so I thought.

About 4 months after we moved to Florida my husband became a mason. He did not always go to meetings but that soon changed around year 2 of him becoming a member. He was very mason focused and spent a lot of energy and money to pursue the "craft". For example, instead of going on a vacation he chose to spend his tax return money on lifetime masonic membership one year without asking me how I felt about it. He also spent time and money going to grand lodge and other workshops throughout the year. He then started going to meetings regularly and all his friends seemed to be masons. All the events he went to were masonic in nature. He started spending lots of time away from home and sometimes with other women and would not come home until the next day and then would lie about it. This did not change after we got married or after we had our child. It just kept getting worse. We spent less and less time together.

He spent very little time with me and our child as he had become the worshipful master of his lodge, a member of the knights templar, a shriner; and a member of both the purple and red houses holding offices in all houses. I saw this as being a huge problem and urged him to slow down which he did not. He outright refused to slow down and told me that masonry was the only thing he loved! Just this month he filed for divorce stating that I had issues. He doesn't want me to live in our home, he does not want to pay child support and he spends every other day at meetings all the while spending very little time with our child.

I always thought that my experience was an isolated thing but it does not seem to be this way. These men join this organization for their own selfish reasons and neglect their responsibility. No mason should ever confront me and tell me that they are God fearing when they do not respect their marriage vows that they took before God.

Name: bored7 New Member

I HAVE BEEN DATING A MASON FOR THE PAST 2 AND 1/2 YEARS AND TODAY I KNOW THAT I HAVE TRULY BEEN DECEIVED! AS I WAS CLEANING UP HIS PLACE, I FOUND HIS
'MASON'S BAG FILLED WITH CONDOMS-- WE NEVER USED CONDOMS SO WHO IS STUPID? I WILL BE ENDING THIS LIE ASAP, AND TO REITERATE ON A COMMENT BY ONE OF THE OTHER LADIES, MY LIFE HAS BEEN UNHAPPY BUT THAT IS ABOUT TO CHANGE!!!!

Name: It's True New Member

So ladies, first of all I don't think they become better men.
Second, they lie and protect each other - even or mostly against women.
Third, my boyfriend was particularly secretive and never admitted it. He took my things from our house with the help of his 'brothers'.
Fourth, they are paranoid with so many signs, gestures and symbols.
Fifth, I'm sure they lie in court to protect each other.
Sixth, they say you are crazy if you show you're feelings - which seems tabu for them (coldness is coined as 'rational balance' for them).

Name: It's True New Member

Pfff... How should I put this?? I'm writing from Spain.
I discovered my ex-boyfriend is a Mason. I did so short before we broke up, although I had a funny sense something was wrong the whole time. How did I know?? Well: the handshakes with a friend of him in particular, who used to invite us for dinners at his 'cultural centre'. Then the funny expressions they used - doing a little bit of research, I discovered they are masonic expressions. He used the masonic alphabet at times - when I asked about it in his notes, he just said "oh it's an alphabet I use" (as if it was commonplace that he would use an unknown alphabet to prepare some indian history classes - an alphabet used by masonry). They used other hand signs, even to identify themselves at dinners with more people. Then when we broke up he played the "crazy" card on me - and so did his friend (whom I got to know, knew more about our relationship than myself) - absolute, insane, corporative fidelity demanded by their "brotherhood" I'm sure. Also, I believe his 'brother' played a role in our break up, other people listened to him saying he had to «take him of my hands». WTF??? And in front of me they would pretend to be kind and actually took advantage of much free work of mine for his friend's NGO!!!

Name: FREEMASONSNO! New Member

You will find it ending, they say, this year. This is why you hear all this hoopla about 2012 ending all life. It won't end all life. But, there supposedly, will only be 3 million people left on earth, which is what the program upper level Rockefeller, Rothschild level was. This is the year, that we the people, found out the truth of the Federal Reserve and it's best to reduce the numbers, when you have that many people upset with you about them having 5 homes in every country and you, being robbed.

Name: FREEMASONSNO! New Member

My God, Where do I begin.

In defense of some freemason networks, there are some pretty
bad and cruel lodges and they pretty much are the same: murderers.

The freemasons, I have studied, at length, to survive my co-worker.
My co-worker was a con artist. I let him into my home with multiple
complaints of being homeless, if, he doesn't remain with the beatings
of his roommate, 15 years his senior. So, letting him in my home was
the biggest mistake, ever, for safety of him.

Over a decade, I have been abused by freemasons. Let me share who
they, actually, are. The pyramid kind of like those Amway schemes
are the hierarchy. It is the pyramid of satan/lucifer/baphomet. The occult works and trainings you can, also, find on Roscruscian Order. It is not just freemasons, it's Elks, it's Lions, it's rotaries.

You see, it is freemasons to the public. But, to the rest of society in the know, it is just a scam. It is your CIA/NSA/DARPA/Intelligence Research.

First you must know, in the 1900's, there was a member that decided to add science to magic.

This is why it is so demented. It is human experimentation and Murders, Inc. If one brother has a wife he wants to destroy, all of the freemason lodges must part take in the clandestine operations, if, they are requested, even by a loser that can't handle being rejected because of his lack of morals. All they have to do is lie about a woman and hide their crimes, rapes, murders.

You see, there is big money in Freeasons. Not, only, does it stroke the big ego, it combines more money so, there is an unlimited budget. Most of the bad freemasons, are serial daters, they have multiple at a time. This is because they require babies and they impregnate them and destroy them with mental illness fraud. Don't believe me about mental illness fraud: uh, okay, then, explain this:

http://www.democrat
icfundamentalism.org

clic
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on words hi-tech, military, medical, entertainment for the technologies that prompt mental illness symptoms, as well as, understanding that quite a few brothers go to a target home and walk around, stare, drive by and stare, trying to prompt them to say, "I think I'm being stalked". Then, protocols from police state that they require them to start writing those complaints as symptoms of mental illness, which, of course, is not. It's the oldest old boys trick in the book, as far back as the KKK, as the KKK leadership were CIA, at the time. They had a nice listing that prompts driving blacks out of their, families, homes, friends so no one would like them, and into their untimely suicide or staged death. This list was created, initially to stop black panthers from rising. You can check by letting the dead speak for them. You will find every man that was a black panther, dead, suicide or mentally ill diagnosed and their family lines. Today, it is not just used for blacks, though the KKK is still alive and well, just as the opposing black groups that wish to hate whites and this conflict remains alive only due to the wrongdoing done to blacks in the first place. (And for the record, the history is actually that portuguese and spanish actually took the african slaves over here and told them they were not human and were savages, whites were just stupid at the time and once the money flowed better with slaves, they didn't want to stop, even with Pope Pius creating new canon laws, "Uh, Doy, Blacks are equals, not slaves." But, slaves persisted despite that rule. Now, you see the mess we are in. But, it stems mostly downsouth. Southern rights to blacks went down differently than northern. In south, they freed slaves and deemed them of course, rightfully so, "human beings as equals", but, they went a bit further, they had the white slave owners turn over their entire farms, estates, possessions, cars, etc. over to the black families and civil armies came in to enforce they become homeless and give everything to their black former slaves. This left some traumatic drama of homelessness and poverty to whites. Even the slaves knew this to be an issue of violence provoker. Which is exactly what happened. After the civil armies left and kicked them out, the whites came back and said, "No, it's my land, and tried to kick them out." Somewhere someone said a black killed a white baby and that was that. It wasn't even validated. Knowing what i know, they probably didn't kill a white baby. But, it caused stories of black babies being murdered and the rest of the violence turned KKK. Now, you know why KKK exists. But, to understand freemasons, you have to understand where this psyche of hatred and evil began. These old KKK murder steps are here:

www.freedomfchs.co
m/thehiddenevil.pdf

This
is why you won't see many blacks in at the top of intelligence. But, will be used. This is my opinion based on what I've studied and who I have seen in leadership in the intelligence and federal reserve, which is pretty much, "Follow the dollar and you will find your issue: Federal Reserve/Banking needed a military when senator Aldrich created a bill to remove the federal reserve from "WE THE PEOPLE". This meant that if you paid for a mortgage $399K, over 25 years a $900K profit would be theirs, instead ofwe the peoples. Once a criminal plans a crime, does the crime successfully, the next step is to defend the crime and we the people became the enemy and they needed to keep us all busy. This is why they required to create the illegal institution of the IRS, as they took their money. Banks, Credit Cards, Corporations were created and how pray tell were they going to stop the one's that knew and paid attention or thought it was wrong? Uh, they created a bigger military, more secretive, more demonic, more magic, more science profit after a while.

But, it extended. You see, when you get into the line of murder and coverups for the brothers (and sisters, now), you tend to start crossing more lines. You know, it's like breaking into a bag of chips. You know, you know, you know they are going to make you fat and have too much sodium. But, once you start committing the crime of one chip, you can't stop, because, what does it matter, you've already gone too far, anyways, why not enjoy the sins and say screw it and not care about anything. It's like that.

You can learn their techniques by Googling their school: Roscruscian Order and can even sign up. You may notice the references to Saints and Mary, and all that jibberwacky. But, you need to pay more attention to the magic sigils. You are aware of the jewish six pointed star, representing them, right? Well, take a peek at the sigil of G, it's the same star, missing two lines. Wowza.

Well, let's take a peak at Revelations, shall we? IN Revelations, it states, there is a puzzle and to try to figure it out. It is a letter that represents the antichrist's number. The anti-christ's number is the same as a letter that is representing the same number. Uh, duh, G=6. Now, why the 666? Well, the 666 number is supposed to be significant in the repetition of the number 6, which is the actual number of the anti-christ. The devil doesn't care who he lures and fools, the more fools the better. Remember, also, that the Bible stated, "Many will be fooled". Indeed. We have to be careful and help our soldiers here in freemasons. I am a witness to the pains and suffering of those that don't wish to take part in the murders. You have to understand, once you go that high in finding out what is truly done, these men are put up in leadership roles in public and have great support and friends galore and a military to kill off any of their oppositions, so, they need fear not anyone. But, what you have to understand, is, if, you see a woman and have to abuse her and you know it leads to a Martha Mitchell destruction in the mental hospital when she is telling the truth about Nixon being a traitor and tried to warn them or the Catherine Collins's that got "Changelinged" and thrown in a mental hospital until she was rescued by the people that knew the crimes of this She wasn't mentally ill and she proved her case of clandestine corruption. It's any govt paid position that is required to follow the orders of the Intelligence Research. Any. This is why you will find on the back of fire trucks, a symbol of a rose and the police a star. These are all magic sigil and symbols that represent occult magic training. Oh don't getting all oh, magic, that demonic thing. No, magic is the primary basis for all religions, folks, jewish, catholic, pagan, voodoo, etc. They all have the same thing, Okay, let me give you an example, "Who has insense?" "oh, all of them, that is magic technique."
"Who uses dead bones?" Uh, you will find on every single alter whether it pagan or christian, dead bones on the alters (under the cloth): uh, magic! How about this, "candles?" Uh, magic, again, it's called Candle magic. Sacrificing, alchemy, all magic and it's knowledge is different in each religion. How about Chanting, uh, chanting is done in, you guessed it, all religions. Remember, there are jews that are not jews, so, you need to be wary of them. Jewish people i know and love, are very kind and dutiful to honor God. So, don't go bashing jews because the freemasons have that symbol. If, anything, it may be to undo them. I don't really have all the answers. But, this is a good truth head start. Lord knows there are a lot of dead carcases everywhere all over the world, due to the international piece.

To the women that cross any freemasons, I would say that either you are in danger or you are an experiment...and none have good outcomes.

Please tread carefully, as we need to have extreme compassion for how
men became monsters. Usually, they climb the ladder of that pyramid and they are given the choice, "Hurt them, and you get to keep your position and your family doesn't get it." They have no choices ladies when they lay down their rings, because, ladies, they lay down more than that and now, you know why men are so grumpy, they have a lot of crosses to bear and I wish I could hug them right out of their issues. They are all trapped when they get that far.

The people they destroy, used to be honorable, like criminals, drug dealers, and people that you knew would hurt others. But, something happened. Greed, turning it into a profit, and they started getting rid of exes as they needed more bodies for sacrifices or target practice for the military with new weapons or pharmaceuticals and it got so out of hand with money, that our men, stopped believing in God and Love, folks. How can they believe in God and Love. The only way you can love, is, if you have freedom. None of these boys and girls, have freedom once they get deep into it. Not all know about this, but, they all have a little blue book they are given and it shows numbers to call to rid any problem. Well, it's a very sad world, because freemasons have been led by misleaders and will pay for it, as do their victims.

I pray for all of us to overcome this and can only ask the higher beings, angels, God and heavenly militaries to stop this and help us all start over with a clean slate, and work through our problems more gently, as money, has become a deadly business for science. I wish you and freemasons well and a way to find freedom from all this evil. God Bless all, God, for they know and hurt knowing they are all stuck. Please release them from this, and give each person a very good second chance and the ability for those that were victims to forgive them for getting caught up in brothers mattering more than ethics, they will need support from this.

Name: Lady12 New Member

How do I begin? I am hurt beyond measure to find out I have been betrayed for so man-years
A man I have known practically my whole life. Trust is major in a relationship, without it
You just have a lie. Lies. How I hate them. Freemasonry is an institution that hates Jesus
Christ- the only true God and the one that died for us all.
I hate anything and everything that is an abomination to God.
I love all people. Have learn much through a lot of pain. It is never good to judge.
Certain things we are told in the precious word of God, must be exposed.
Freemasons I love you all, but wish with all that I am that you know that
Jesus Christ said " I am the way, the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father
Except through Me." John 14. He also said " I am the light of the world, He who follows Me
Shall not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." John 8:12. Acts 4:12 tells us
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name given unto men by which
We must be saved. So as you can see. There is no other one to follow, no other path
And no other light. And no other book, revelation 22, is the last book. Charity can be
Done apart from an institution that is contrary to everything that Jesus Christ stands for
For what does it profit a man, if he gains the whole world, but loses his soul? Or what wil
Will a man give in exchange for his soul? Mark 8:36-37. Losing my mate, but have
Jesus Christ always. Love you all.

Name: soon to be x wife New Member

My husband of 13 years joined first the masons and then the shriners about a year ago, just last week he said we were through because we did not have anything in common??? He spent all of his time at one "event" or another, and much like others on her I did not go with him as I have a full time job, plus a house to keep!, he is on disability, so he is free to be the social butterfly. If your husband is about to join the masons or shriners, get ready to be an ex., NOTHING matters except his "brothers"

Name: A devistated X Wife. New Member

I have just been divorced for causing my husband 'social embaressement' because I refused to go with him. It is an anti-family organisation that steals the lives of not just the children, but also the men too. It takes vast quantities of the family finances. They also believe that their lives will somehow fall apart if they leave it (as if their life didn't exist before they went in!) It is systematically destroying the fabric of society, especially the middle classes. All in all, it is a horrid blight on society. They look silly too, but that's another matter.

Name: sad wife New Member

How Freemasonery make a good men better men? In my case they make a mess with my husband, he was a good men and that was the men I marry. Can't not belive his change. I wonder how many families been destroy for change a good men for better men. Better men for who? for them.

Name: gomper18 New Member

I suppost to celebrate our 30th anniversary and I don't think will be. Thanks for some reason Masons. I used to have a husband that used to care for our family, used to do everything together but now his only friends and vocabulary is Mason. Yes he put Mason first, second and third. Is just what the brothers have to say about how great he is doing. And no they don't have that many family activities. I start trainning my self to be alone go to the mivies by my self, restaurant by my self, shopping by my self. So I related with the rest of the ladies. Thanks to you I realized I'm not crazy or I'm not a bitch. This relationship is been so beat in the last year that I do not think it will be fix, I feel extreme hurt and betrayal.

Name: someguy New Member

Sorry to hear all of the bad responses. I am a Mason and I am also a member of other masonic bodies to include the Shrine and the Q. I do not understand some of the claims. My wife and kids come with me nearly 90% of the time. We travel together to conventions and we just attended the Shriners convention in Denver This year. Yes my wife and kids came and sat in on the week long meetings and we visited hospitality rooms for other masonic bodies where other wives were there taking part. In my opinion it is a family organization. If you are not involved with your spouse or told you cannot participate I would say that is a different issue. I will be taking my wife with me on the " Q" cruise to Mexico this winter. I know that there is still some rouge units out there that are holding onto the old way of the past but they are the Minority. with the technology that we have the Masonic Secret is out and you can see anything you would like on the internet. in fact if you would like to know what the ritual is all you have to do is type ROJ Ritual and you can print the script. Please do not hate all of us. My wife and I enjoy this organization.

Name: masonwife New Member

Masons are masters of nothing but deceit, so yes, it is very likely that anyone married to one will end up divorced or unhappy.

The bible is just one book of many that masons can swear on. it is considered equal to the koran; religious texts from the Hindu, Buddhist religions (and others) can also be used. The Lord God, Jesus Christ Himself, has forbidden oaths, and He hates murder. And yet masonry is nothing but oath after oath of vileness, including murder. It is true, however, that masons believe in "one god". However, it is the god of all religions, and particularly of the early, pagan mystery religions. (You can see it in the symbols if you have the education or knowledge of what they were). Even if you just look at it logically, one could easily see that this is a lie, as these different faiths have direclty conflicting beliefs. IT MOST CERTAINLY IS NOT THE GOD OF CHRISTIANITY, and it is blasphemy to equate the Lord Jesus Christ with the "gods" of other religions and call him just another light. Do not be mistaken; God is not mocked. Masons: Repent. I know that when you lie, it is because you are behaving like your father, the Father of Lies.

I am married to a mason, and there is a very real chance he will divorce me. I will not let him sell his soul without warning him. And I wanted to warn other women: this is most definitely a cult.

Name: ksk New Member

For 18 years my husband and I were partners in life . I loved him , was always there for him . I could count on him , he was there for me . Everything changed when he joined the Masons. He became a master mason , shriner and a member of the Q . At first I went with him to functions that wifes were allowed to attend . I was greeted with a cold reception from the other wifes . My husband assured me that would change if I would join the womens groups . I wanted nothing to do with this super secert organization . Being a Mason takes precedence over all other ,even wife and family . My husband was never home . He attened many important meetings and conventions where wifes are not allowed . I learned that prostitutes are an important part of these conventions and meetings . Wifes are only important as props . Attatchments to the members arm as he is honered moving up in chairs . A wife completes the uniform and gives the appearance of being good and honorable men . Some of these honored ladies have been with these men for than twenty years as masons . They have to know , but their friends and social lives are centered in the freemasons , the men they love . After many years of sharing our computer , my husband locked me out .After twenty six years our marriage is ending with divorce . I had his pass word removed from our computer . In it I found a prostittute service Shriners use when away from wifes . I found the name of one of the wifes that he shares a porn site with . He has been in a relationship with the widow of a Mason and with other women for a long time . Cheating and messing around on their wifes is one of the secerts . My husband has found a prop . If I could have played along my husband wouldn't be trying to put me out with only my personal belongings . Please don't tell me that Mason do good and kind acts with their secrets . Yes my husband has changed for the worst with involvement in the Masons . I am almost affraid because some
judges and lawyers in Las Vegas are Masons .

Name: cas New Member

My husband is my best friend, the love of my life and the ONLY person I have ever trusted in my life. He just joined the masons and all I feel is extreme hurt and betrayal. I thought I could handle it, but I'm having a hard time with this and it shows. I try to be supportive but it's driving a wedge in a solid relationship. I cannot understand why a "fraternity" that "makes good men in to better men" and is so charitable would be so secret. I know this is the way it was founded in the 1700's. Women are treated differently today than they were, but for the sake of "tradition", the secrecy remains at the cost of marriage. If this fraternity was founded in the times of the caveman, would it be acceptable to pull us "Ladies" by the hair just because this is how it was done? This is another point - I am not an object or a possession, therefore I HATE the term, "his Lady". It used to be mandatory to memorize parts of the Masonic Cipher, but times have changed and now much of that memorization is no longer mandatory. Why can't other things be amended? I'm sick of this and wish he was never accepted. I'm kicking myself now because I didn't do my homework and research about the masons when the three "brothers" came to the home to interview my husband and supposedly me. I didn't know I needed to be in on the interview so I left the room when they came. After the interview was over, my husband called me in because they wanted to know if I had any questions. How could I have questions when I didn't hear anything, and didn't know anything to ask? The only I knew was that I've heard masons did charitable work. I had no idea what I was getting myself and our marriage into. There is NOTHING that is more sacred than the bond of marriage. ANY organization that intentionally demands secrecy between a husband and wife (with the exception of security agencies, of course) cannot claim to put marriage and family first. With the mason mentality, it's all about preserving the brotherhood and tradition of the "fraternity".

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Name: angel New Member

I married my husband last year I knew he was a mason before I married him how ever all I have known my whole life about this organization is nothing. My views of masonry are very negative because of something I heard my husband friends say to a non member including things about eastern stars and masons . From reading all the blog’s about masonry and what I suspect to be is true they must be swingers. I new a mason growing up a business man who owns his on tire shop however he constantly cheats on his wife I guess those nights at the lodge were false I grew up seeing this type of behavior I thought it had nothing to do with the fact he was mason and just a cheating dog. Anyway I didn’t enter a marriage with secrets now I realized I did. A marriage should never have secrets and to be honest if you have to keep something a secret especially from the one you love you are indeed doing something very shameful and out of line. My husband claims he no longer practices masonry so why wont he show me what’s in that stupid ass suitcase anyway I just wanted to say thanks for the info on the masons I have been warned I hope my marriage doesn’t end in shambles. Oh yeah I don’t believe him when he says his is no longer practicing he has symbols every where in his car and on the computer. Recently a friend of mines husband joined this organization she has complained about how her husband is never home , could this be the evil doing of masonry which breaks families and marriages apart after reading some of your stories I am now completely out raged!

Name: kilka New Member

masons are brainwashed indeed, it is a cult and they worship one god or satan. their point is that all in this world comes from one god. there is no good and evil, it's all one will. no one can tell what god's plans are but they believe that all desires come from the divine spark so instead of using brain from time to time, they start totally following their desires. they trust in god, it's providence and their desires. whatever evil things they do(considered evil in normal world), they explain it as god's will. after some time their thinking processes stop and memories get lost. there are some magic rituals as well. it feels very "cool" for them to feel superior. it works in a way cause often their talks and actions without thinking are really spot on. just to give you an idea what it's like...it's sort of 2 movies together: "The Rite(priest's posession)" and "Limitless"(feeling limetless and being guided by upper force). So morality and ethics..it's all bla-bla-bla to cover up themselves. they sort of get rid of human beeing's free will

Name: WivesClub New Member

Hay Bill1393 - It sounds like most of us have done the research and paid the price for being married to fraternal jerks. Love your top 3 reasons see my response. I enhanced your reasons based on my personal experience after 30 years of marriage to a FREEMASON.

1. The opportunity to meet and fraternize with intelligent and respectable men that leave their wives and children on a regular basis for dinners, meetings and weekend events with no excuses and no financial limitations.
2. To study and improve my own knowledge and character including your sex life with Jester Girls.
3. To belong to an organization that spends one and one half million
Dollars per day for charitable work while you drain your joint bank accounts and end up in divorce court after 30 years of marriage (this should have happened in 1984 when he joined the MASONS). The only charitable work my husband has done is to support prostitution.

The MASONS need to take a long look at the non-profit sub organizations that reflect on their conduct. You must be a Mason before you can belong to the sub organizations such as the Royal Order of Jesters which is noting but a disgusting bunch of perverts. Please quote me on that.

Wives should boycott any organization that excludes them from any meeting or gathering.

Name: Senta New Member

I have been married to my husband Chris now for 10 years. We moved from Utah to Las Vegas. He always wanted to become a mason so he became one.
I am finding myself always complaining about the masons. I think the group stands for allot of good but the husbands who are masons that I know they do not preach what they are taught. When I bring up spending quality time with me he does not at all, but when it comes to their meetings it can be almost every day of the week he is there all the way. They also go to the lodge of instruction that is a bar around the corner where he spends time with his brothers till hours in the morning. When I ask him to do something do with me spending quality time to build and spark our marriage he turns me down time after time. I work in a learning center with 30 kids on a daily basis take care of our kids when I come home from work. I need some adult time. Also they teach to be one with God with the other brothers but I do not see it. One of the other brothers who is married and goes to a swingers club with his wife , an other brother was soliciting his own sister with the other brothers to join their sex site. One of the other brothers surfs porn all the time.
You would almost think that he is married to the masons not me. He is pulling more and more away and we fight when I bring it up. They say they take oaths to the bible but why are your actions not in tune with that. I thought when you got married you become one with your wife , but I only see my husband is one with the masons. You are doing allot of good what the outside world can see but what good do you do in your households to become one with the wife. you are distancing your self more from her. He does not see the change in himself. A wife who is always home with the kids, who does not go any where. Who wants affection from her husband not just sex. But my husband who rather be with his brothers. Anyway I love my husband very much and I fighting for my marriage. If I would be gone as much as he is I know for a fact he would accuse me of having an affair. I don't know what to think any more.

Name: WivesClub New Member

After 30 years of marriage to a Shriner I finally realized what a life I wasted with someone who lies, cheats and deceives me. My husband joined the Freemasons after we had been married about 5 years and being the narcissist that he is things quickly got out of hand –he is currently a member of 14+ organizations. It doesn’t stop with the Shrine there are spin off organizations they join such as the Royal Order of Jesters, Order of the Q, Billiken Clubs, Jesters on Wheels, etc. that keep them gone on weekends and will drain your bank accounts. These organizations promote immoral activities that are published as STAG events that include prostitution. Over the years while doing the wash I found call girl cards, phone numbers, Viagra, and other memorabilia in my husband’s pockets after he returned from the “Books”. These Books are nothing more than excuses to leave your wife and family and do whatever you want – your marriage vows are checked at the door. What goes on behind the secret Shrine/ROJ curtain stays behind the curtain. They will lie to your face and in court to protect each other. One protection they can’t offer is from HIV – Jester Girls should be tested more often. I recommend to other wives that you have your husband HIV tested regularly if he joins any of these organizations or your life could be in danger and not just from his threats. The Sam Houston email regarding the Royal Order of Jesters is not isolated to Texas and New York this behavior exists in every state under the fraternal cloak of darkness. They are brainwashed to acknowledge Hiram Abiff as their savior and to believe in a supreme being that is not Jesus Christ. Like they say SO MOTE IT BE!

Name: Gizzy New Member

My husband recently joined the Masons. We have been married 22 yrs. we have two boys 21 and 17. Everyone who has responded has hit it right on the money. I thought I was the only one who was feeling this way. My husband sits on the couch and reads this little blue book after work til its time to go to bed. Not to mention he is gone every saturday all day long for ceremonies out in the woods. Yes he calls all of them brothers now and yes I agree this is a CULT!! All he does now is spends several hours a week with them. Hours that he could be spending with his own family, working on the lawn, keeping up the pool. Nope that is on the back burner as well as me and our youngest son. Everything is so private that I dont know where he goes or what he is doing. They have secret hand shakes and secret codes. I am found home alone most of the time now. I can see that they are more important than me. Divorce is on my mind more than ever. Its a CULT and they have brainwashed him.

Name: gomper18 New Member

I knew it, I was not the only one with this problem. Angel Fire is like you are here. 27 years together, three grow n sons, use to enjoy riding motorcycle together and little by little is all about the MASON's he is somebody I don't know. Because I don't speak Mason is no communication at all. I;m totally in the back burner at the point, if he have to choose between me and Mason... guess who? I do not have any family around at all so, I am by my self, THANK YOU MASON'S I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY FOR BREAKING UP YET ANOTER MARRIAGE!!!!!

GM we get together twice a year with them and is all about them, wife are just to show how wonderful they are in front of each other, Bulllllllllll.

Greyannon, thanks, my husband do anything for the Masons BUT in our house is a lot to do and he never find time cause the meetings and then he comes from work and is tiered.

What the ======= they preach at home? nothing

Name: angel_fire New Member

Before my husband joined the mason's my husband and I had a very close and happy relationship. once he joined them he turned into a man that i no longer know. i have known this man for 19 years and now he is a stranger too me and our children. he has gone so far as to tell me that the masons are his brothers and sisters and we are no longer his family. IS THIS NORMAL????now he is telling me that him and i are not on te same pathway so we should not be together anymore. that was said because i told him i didnt agree with what he was doing with mason's. and i told him that i was not happy to know that the way the Eastern Star group out there got started because the leader woman of the Easter Star slept with the then Worshipful Master. so that upset me. my husband told me that story himself. i have dont alot of research on this group and i hate to break the news to everyone it is a CULT!! problem being if the person is in they will never ever fix their lips to say the truth. they have been brainwashed. now after 19 years i am going to have to learn to live without my wonderful -bestfriend i ever had - my husband. THANK YOU MASON'S I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY FOR BREAKING UP YET ANOTER MARRIAGE!!!!!

Name: Bill1393

Please take a few minutes and do some serious research.

Yes; some Masons behave badly. This is in opposition to what we are
taught.

I will give three reasons I am an active Freemason.
The opportunity to meet and fraternize with intelligent at respectable men.
To study and improve my own knowledge and character.
To belong to an organization that spends one and one half million
Dollars per day for charitable work.

Your State Grand Lodge Website is a good place to start reading, or Google
"Freemason".

Finally we believe in one God and take our oaths on The Bible.

I sincerely regret that your lives are so troubled; but let me assure you
That Masonry is not in itself the cause.

My Best to You All

Bill

Name: wifesbeware

I am going through the same thing as you. My husband got involved with the masons and it has been the wrose experience in my life. The lodge he is in does nothing but worship the devil and I am not going to have any part of that. I am not saying the masons have not done anything good in the community but they has done nothing right in the eyes of the Lord. The masons took a happy home and destroyed it. Now I am left raising two children on my own and lost not just my husband but he was also a father of my children and my best friend.

Name: greyannon New Member

Pardon me for being so blunt, but false blame without knowledge really ticks me off. From your "look inside yourself" reply, my guess is you are an Eastern Star member, and therefore could not view any of this with non-bias. This attitude is exactly what I'm talking about: it's never them, it's you. Maybe some good works have been proclaimed by this group and their spin-offs, but it does not give them free reign to be racist, sexist, arrogant, nasty, pushy and indifferent to any negative impact that is brought to someone's relationships (including my husbands' friends) by being involved with the Masons. I learned a long time ago that I am not the only one ( and not the only lodge location) that has experienced this change in a husband that joined the Masons, so that blows the theory that I have to look into our relationship as the problem. To further prove my point, since I started this thread on July 23rd, 2001, my husband has disclosed to me much more of the goings on in this group, he has had it with them. As far as "joining the Eastern Star and see"; I have been among them at various events, holier then thou, snobbery and alienation was what I experienced there, and at no surprise to me. Respectfully.

Name: GM New Member

You and the other lady must have had just a bad husband. I have had great experience with the Masons and other Masons wives. Other organizations along with them (the Shriners and Scottish Rites) are all dedicated to the family values and helping those unfortunates and children. Those that don't are just not living up to what the purpose of the organization is. These groups help so many people and ask for nothing in return. Join the Eastern Star and see for yourself. Don't let a bad experience cast a bad light on the great organization. This group includes people throughout history that built this country and fought for the family values and the freedom we have. I can only say, if I needed help, I will turn to these people and know I will get a helping hand with no return expectation. Maybe you are blaming the wrong person or persons for your marriage problems, look further into yourself.

Name: KMarak1116 New Member

Hon, I am not sure if you relaize this but the Mason's are considered like a cult. They have rituals and things of that sort that is performed in meetings etc.. Do a web search on Mason's and see what you come up with. I am afraid you are gonna be fairly shocked at what you find. Sorry for your trouble.

Name: greyannon New Member

Oh yes, I am aware of what goes on within their group. I was going with him to the covered dish meetings, at the very beginning before he took any seat of office. They treated me like dirt and talked about him behind his back, loud enough for me to hear. It was shameful behavior. Then I saw what the people in that group were like and I said, I'm outa here. My husband slowly over the years, as he moved up in the chairs of office, began to neglect every aspect of our life together. The Masons became the first and formost thing in his mind. Everything else was pushed aside, including me. It was a very disturbing thing to witness happening. I felt I was losing my husband to a group of brainwashers. This is his last year (so he says), he is the "Worshipful Master" and he says that's the end. I can only hope. They have him doing all the running for the lodge, even cutting the grass there with no help. The whole scenario is a joke and he is thier sucker, sad to say. I think now that this "goal" of his (whatever it was for) is coming to an end, I think he is sincere in his statement of quitting. He does express to me that he learned nothing from them, and now sees what was happening to our life together. I do appreciate your comments greatly. I wanted to reach out to other women in their experiences with the Masons, to know that I'm not alone in one of the most out of control, horrible experiences of my life. Thanks.